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Location: new england | ive read on here and other forums about horror stories about state troopers pulling over horse trailers, and other people saying its a hoax/rumor started by people who are bored and should be out riding.
my expiriance is real, true, similar and happened this weekend.
last month a had a leaky radiator replaced and my truck inpected, gone through and checked out in anticipation of a road trip from north RI to south jersey for an endurance ride.(mustang memorial)
it should have taken 4-5 hours.
i went west on the ny state throughway 287 to avoid going through nyc and the bronx. somewhere in southern ny state, nyack ny, my new radiator exploded all over my engine making a huge smokey mess.
i got pulled over quick, let it cool off, and spent a few minutes looking at it.
my friend who was with me called us rider who got us connected with a heavy service provider within an hour.
my radiator is leaking heavily but his shop is less than 5 miles away, the next exit, almost right next to the highway. so we fill up with water, i put on the flashers and follow him to the next exit. i'd say were were on the side of the highway with the hood up for 1 hour45 minutes total. get off the ramp-we are half a mile from the shop and an unmarked state trooper gets between us and PULLS OVER THE SERVICE VEHICLE.
youve got to be kidding me.
i pull behind them shut off my truck, and now i'm really leaking and steaming up .
we sit there for another half hour while the cop busts this guys nuggets about if i'm heavy enough to be serviced by him, because he is only authorized to service heavy trucks on the thru-way.
any trooper worth his salt could plainly see that a 1 ton crew cab dually pulling a 25 foot gooseneck is probably heavy enough.
during this whole thing he says "i drove by you a few times and wondered what was going on and wondered how you got hooked up with this guy" then WHY DIDNT YOU STOP AND ASSIST US! like your supposed to do
he gets my registrations from me and checks my gvw weights which are listed as 10k for the truck and 8k for the trailer. i have since looked up there own rules and just my dually is consitered heavy (6 wheels or more a gvwr of 6,999 or more)
now i'm thinking hes going check my rig, but let him, my shit works, ive got fire extinguishers, wheel chocks, triangles etc.
but theres nothing he can do we are both legal and in the right, so he lets us go with out even an apology.we contine to the shop which is walking distance from where we were stopped. if you wanted to bust his nuts, couldnt you just wait till we pulled in there?
the second half of my adventure involves wheather or not a dually is allowed on the garden state parkway south of the nj turnpike? it said no trucks, which usually means tractor trailers. it was narrow, but maybe i should have been on the turnpike instead? there rules are hard to understand, but nobody said anything and i was not pulled over either coming or going.
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Location: pa | He sounded young, board or just trying to be super cop.Most troopers have more to do with their time than pester someone trying to take care of their business. I know PA Troopers would appreciate that you removed your rig in a timely manner. Not all troopers are idiots like this one sounded. |
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| I'm not anti cop or for causing a state boy trouble on his job.But,did you happen to get Trooper NY's name? I think I might zoom his troop commander a note on how he "drove past a few times and wondered what was going on" then finally decided to come over and give youall some grief. |
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Location: new england | i was trying to see if his shirt had a name or number on it, but didnt see anything. i was already of thinking of filing a complain while i was sitting there. he harassed the guy, looked at my papers, questioned me, told me he saw us on the ny state thru way when he drove by "a couple of times" then harassed tow driver some more before he took off.
my passenger was on the phone with the tow drivers passenger,-his wife- during the whole thing trying to find out what the problem was.
he was never nice, nor of any assistance.
sorry, i'll try to break down somewhere else next time.
we were just happy to see him leave.
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Location: MI. | Don't they have to have a badge/name on their shirt? How can they pull someone over without it? I would be hesitant to stop by an unmarked car but even more so if the officer was in plain clothes. If this was the case, I would've called 911 and explained what was happening.
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Location: NY | commercial plates are not allowed on parkway. you could tell the the complete office the time and day you were pulled over that may help or tow company a lot of trouble |
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Location: new england |  with the parkway thing if i saw "no commercial vehicles" i would think box trucks
no trucks= no tractor trailers but if i saw a sign " no campers" or "no vehicles over 8' wide" i would have run the otherway. while planning this trip, i went online to see the best route and only info i got was no trucks. the statie was real, but hardly talked to me. he was a gruff older man. |
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Location: Corpus Christi, Texas | His wife must have ticked him off that morning... |
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|  He'd be ticked off by a whole lot more by the time I got done with the situation.I wouldn't let it go,myself.I'd find out who it was and I'd send his commander a letter or file a complaint.
I have to say that we had a flat on a very busy 4 lane (I 60) around Springfield,MO a year ago Memorial Day weekend.Had a blowout,loaded with 2 horses and no way off the interstate,no shoulder to get out on and try to fix it,and,speed limit of 70 and buddy,they were doing every bit of it.I called 911 and an officer from the Springfield PD came right on,escorted us to the next exit which was just up the road less than 1/4 mile but we didn't know that.He was extremely nice and helpful,and,I contacted his commanding officer and let him know about this officer's helpfulness and how appreciative we were. I respect and admire police and other law enforcement but some such as Trooper NY need to remember that they are to "protect and serve" and try to be a little less of a jacka** at times.
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Location: new england | i'm doing some searching for info on the state police barracks that probably service that area. i'll let you know what i do and where it gets me. right now i am trying to get a refund on my less than 30 day-old radiator. they are giving me grief about that too. trying to say they dont cover holes, that something hit it.(from the inside!) that my thermostat must have stuck, and caused it to fail.(from the metal part??)the damn thing failed cause it wasnt made/recored properly and wont hold presure. ugh. |
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| Yes,well,here's a suggestion about THAT one.Tell them you're getting ready to file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau and the State Attorney General's Office.I'm sure there are other reporting agencies that the state AG can refer you to,also.That might help change their minds about the reason why the radiator failed.Did you tell them yourself that you,a woman,actually know the reason why the radiator didn't hold up? Might cause them to fall out with shock,but,they might start rethinking things,too. |
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Location: MI. | She didn't get a name. How do you report it if no tickets were issued? |
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Location: Danielsville Georgia | I've been going in and out of court houses the last few weeks.Looking up real estate transactions etc.Plus I was looking for a guy in a apartment complex dealing with a unpaid business transaction.They called a sheriff on me.ALL the Sheriffs I have dealt with have had nasty attitudes.A couple of them at court houses are fat,out of shape bad attitudes.Two of these guys in busy court houses were the rudest most unhelpful sobs I have encountered in years. I asked my therapist about this.He said its common and a big issue nationwide.He said they must really be unhappy in their jobs.
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| That's easy.You think they don't keep records of the stops that are made? |
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| Originally written by hounddog on 2009-11-20 5:27 AM
I've been going in and out of court houses the last few weeks.Looking up real estate transactions etc.Plus I was looking for a guy in a apartment complex dealing with a unpaid business transaction.They called a sheriff on me.ALL the Sheriffs I have dealt with have had nasty attitudes.A couple of them at court houses are fat,out of shape bad attitudes.Two of these guys in busy court houses were the rudest most unhelpful sobs I have encountered in years. I asked my therapist about this.He said its common and a big issue nationwide.He said they must really be unhappy in their jobs. LOL,that's pretty truthful and funny.Like the sheriff in Smoky and the Bandit? |
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Location: Danielsville Georgia | Most of them ones I come across are bad overweight.I have watched some at Ryan's buffet at lunch time.OMG.I can't see how they get through the rest of the day after the 1000s of calories they consume.Chase a crook! Yea right.LOL |
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Location: NY | for your radiator find out were the got it and call them and find out what the warranty is for it , you may find out they got it from a junk yard. |
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Location: Mt. Vision, NY - waaay upstate | Hmmmm...The trooper should have stopped to assist. He/She was wrong. Where in NY was this? Get the Troop Letter (e.g. A, B, C, D troop) Should be a listing on a website someplace. When you find out which troop he's in call and ask for the Major in charge of that unit. Explain your story "in full". This trooper needs an attitude adjustment. My husband is a retired NYS trooper and believe me - THIS kind of behavior is completely unacceptable. |
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| Originally written by hounddog on 2009-11-20 5:53 AM
Most of them ones I come across are bad overweight.I have watched some at Ryan's buffet at lunch time.OMG.I can't see how they get through the rest of the day after the 1000s of calories they consume.Chase a crook! Yea right.LOL Did you see the movie "Cop Land"? Sly Stallone said that he meant no disrespect to law officers because he'd played one before in his movies,but,he purposely gained weight and looked pudgy around his waistline to play the part of Sheriff Fred Heflin because he said "hey,it's just typical." Course,I'm no Jennie Craig rep/example,myself. |
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Location: Corpus Christi, Texas | My husband is a police officer, also ( as a supervisor; he deals with complaints on his guys and calls them out if they are wrong.) and I agree with pasobeth.. Yes, some cops are SOB's but if they get called on it enough, there are disciplinary actions taken.. This guy should have offered to help instead of searching for something to bust you with..... Hounddog, as to cops/troopers/deputies being a bunch of fatties.. I agree that the force should enforce some type of fitness regimen, and make their officers accountable for it..like SWAT enforces fitness, agility and shooting accuracy. they have mandatory requirements.. You don't pass.. you don't "play".... Most of those troopers spend 10-12 hours behind the wheel of a car, only getting out to write a ticket or take a leak.. Or for lunch as you mentioned before.... It doesn't take too much imagination to figure as to why they might be a bit hefty.
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Location: Mt. Vision, NY - waaay upstate | Actually, in NYS the troopers MUST maintain a healthy (not obese) weight or they are put on a "fat-boy" (for lack of a better word) list. They can be furloughed if they don't stay in good working shape. It has been that way for a number of years, now. Also - here's the link for the Troop "Letter" designation. If you were on the NYS Thruway then you want the Troop "T" contact. http://www.troopers.state.ny.us/CONTACT_US/Troop_Information/
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Location: Danielsville Georgia | Weight dosen't have anything to do with the nasty attitude so many have. The ones I encounter in court houses for the most part are real asses.The other day I wa in a really busy courthouse in a town thats been really growing.The two at the check in you could look and see naty attitude ozzing from them. |
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Location: MT | He probably didn't stop because once an officer of the law stops at a broke down vehicle the officer cannot leave until that vehicle is operational agaian. And that is straight from the horses mouth, when I broke down one time, cop sat with me for over an hour it was kind of funny. But I can't figure out why your crying about this, you didn't get a ticket. And your probably lucky you didn't get a ticket for leaking anti-freeze all over, I've heard of that happening. Had a friend with a diesel tank in the back of his box and had it plumped into his tank on the truck. He parked it and the hose between the two takns got cut and the cop said he could of wrote him a ticket for close to couple thousand for a fine, so I think your lucky for not getting one for anit-freeze. I'm sure the cop was being an ass, but you gotta remeber he probably puts up with so much stuff from people that get pulled over. I'm sure you were in a great mood also so you were being super nice.
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Location: new england | actually while planning my route, for this trip and my june trip to niagara falls i read the rules of nys thru way, that if you break down, you must pull over to the right and raise your hood and wait for a state trooper to assist you.tow companies must be licenced with the state,to provide service on certain roads- because prices are controlled to protect the motorist from being preyed opon by tow companies.
his interest was in hassling the service provider. he was only interested in my registered weights. he just chose to make us stop 1/2 mile from the garage. i was only leaking water at that point. but 2 ladies with a horse trailer, that are having a problem? what if it was 100 degrees out?
we had sat on the side of the road for almost 2 hrs already. he saw us. he kept going.
i suppose it could have been worse,but let me get off the road. the service provider said its illegal to leave livestock on the road, and the trooper should have been concearned about that first, not weather or not i was a couple of hundred pounds shy of being a "heavy truck" so he could service me. |
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Location: MI. | Originally written by crowleysridgegirl on 2009-11-20 6:46 AM
That's easy.You think they don't keep records of the stops that are made? Who's saying he even logged it? |
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| Aren't they required to run their dash cams during every stop that they make? Are they not required to radio in when they are in the process of making a stop? I'd think for their own safety,if nothing else.Be pretty dumb not to. I promise you that if I were her,and,I wanted to find out the name of the guy who stopped me,I could and I would do so.No problemo.Why do you seem to have a problem with that?
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Location: Corpus Christi, Texas | When cops stop people, they are required to tell dispatch that they are "going out" on this subject and usually run the plate, which is how they catch some rolling stolens or other guys who merit further contact..That way someone always knows what is going on and if something goes wrong and the cop needs help in a hurry, dispatch already has an idea of what is going on and who their dealing with. There should be a record of it in the dispatch log, if someone chose to inquire that far. |
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Location: winsted ct | yeah I had a aweful experience in NY also. we were headed to lexington va for the colonials. and was stuck along the side of the Interstate 1 mile from the thurway. it was night time and no one would stop. cop passed several times. we were loaded. had 2 flats on the same side and what a mess. called 911 and was told there was nothing they could do. I called bs on that and would not take their answer. called our moter plan, they said they didn't do horse trailers but would get us the help we needed. they called the NY troopers and said get out there and help them. we were on speaker phone. they never showed up. fineally after 4 hrs there a service truck was tracked down from many phone calls. and 600 bucks later. still no sign of troopers help. just kept driving by. what the kicker was we had 3 horses on and 5 people in the rig. 3 were kids. the service guy was very unhappy having to change 2 tires and have horses on. thank god they were all great on the trailer. the guy said" are you sure there is horses on? my reply was yes a full load of men.( horses are all geldings), he looked at me funny and then went back to work. needless to say the NY troopers are worthless along with the dispatures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Location: Canada | Well, let me just throw in my POSITIVE experience with police! We blew a tire on the 401 on the way to a show fully loaded with 6 horses. We changed the tire out, and in the process a OPP (ontario provincial police) officer stopped to give us a hand. Was very helpful and polite. When it was time for us to get into traffic he even put his lights on to help us merge.
I dont know what some of you expect them to do when you get stuck with a flat and call them? They're not gonna come and do all the grunt work and change the tire for you, that's certainly not their job! Unless it's an emergency situation you're probably going to be their last priority.
It sucks that you were pulled over and held up for so long, not every officer is going to appreciate how delicately we treat our horses. The only thing we can do is be prepared for the unexpected to happen with lots of extra water! |
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Location: North Carolina | Originally written by drumrunners1968 on 2009-11-26 4:35 PM yeah I had a aweful experience in NY also. we were headed to lexington va for the colonials. and was stuck along the side of the Interstate 1 mile from the thurway. it was night time and no one would stop. cop passed several times. we were loaded. had 2 flats on the same side and what a mess. called 911 and was told there was nothing they could do. I called bs on that and would not take their answer. called our moter plan, they said they didn't do horse trailers but would get us the help we needed. they called the NY troopers and said get out there and help them. we were on speaker phone. they never showed up. fineally after 4 hrs there a service truck was tracked down from many phone calls. and 600 bucks later. still no sign of troopers help. just kept driving by. what the kicker was we had 3 horses on and 5 people in the rig. 3 were kids. the service guy was very unhappy having to change 2 tires and have horses on. thank god they were all great on the trailer. the guy said" are you sure there is horses on? my reply was yes a full load of men.( horses are all geldings), he looked at me funny and then went back to work. needless to say the NY troopers are worthless along with the dispatures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! drumrunners1968: I am sympathetic to your troubles. I also trailer horses. But I don't agree that either NY 911 or NY state troopers is at all responsible for helping in your situation. Sounds like there was no human life at risk. I doubt your motor plan has any authority over the NY troopers in task assignment or dispatch. It was likely a bit a theater for your benefit. I do suggest you get a membership at US Rider. They WILL help disabled horse trailers. (My experience with USRider has been great) They also suggest carrying TWO spares since their experience is the same as yours. It is likely both tires on a side will be damaged in an incident. I still haven't figured where to mount the second spare, so I just throw it into the truck bed. |
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Location: NY | US RIDER works great do not leave home with out it |
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| Thank goodness have not had experiance like this but a friend did and it was in Texas with a trailer load of horses, if I remember correct she called them on keeping her by letting them know the law is that if they are going to keep you over so long a time (I am not sure what that time frame is but I bet someone knows) they have to provide some place for you to unload your stock and water it, in this case she did not have something I think it was probably registration, the kicker is she was the trainer for a person who owned a car dealership and the rig that she was pulling was his. I have always had it in the back of my mind if I ever got pulled over on a hot day I sure would pull out this ace card. Oh and they did not detain her by the way. Pat Moore |
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