Posted 2015-07-13 11:49 AM (#164033) Subject: Good mid range tires?
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The tires on my 3 horse Alum trailer are dry rotted so I am looking to replace them. What are some good brands that are quality but wont break the bank? What should I look for or avoid when looking? Thanks
Posted 2015-07-13 5:51 PM (#164036 - in reply to #164033) Subject: RE: Good mid range tires?
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Just my opinion: Avoid Made in China and avoid ST Tires (Trailer Service)I am running Firestone TransForce AT on my 4 horse LQ and Goodyear Wrangle on my flatbed both LT.
Posted 2015-07-13 11:13 PM (#164043 - in reply to #164033) Subject: RE: Good mid range tires?
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Originally written by horsesnharleys on 2015-07-13 11:49 AM
The tires on my 3 horse Alum trailer are dry rotted so I am looking to replace them. What are some good brands that are quality but wont break the bank? What should I look for or avoid when looking? Thanks
Posted 2015-07-15 12:03 PM (#164060 - in reply to #164059) Subject: RE: Good mid range tires?
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The RV folks say that these Sailun tires are doing the job, I have a set in a 215-75-17.5 lrH and are doing quite well. May be buying a 235- 85-16 lrG in the future... http://www.gosailun.com/Tires/Sailun/Regional%20A-P/335
Posted 2015-07-17 12:55 PM (#164090 - in reply to #164033) Subject: RE: Good mid range tires?
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look at them and if they are made in China i would walk away. buy the best tire that you can afford and you will not be sorry in the long run. I for one will only buy an American made tire.
Posted 2015-08-11 1:45 PM (#164419 - in reply to #164033) Subject: RE: Good mid range tires?
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I am looking for new tires for 3 horse 10ft LQ. Have Firestone Transforce HT now but wondering about the AT if they would be better. Mine are from 2007 and starting to dry rot.
Posted 2015-08-13 4:42 AM (#164430 - in reply to #164036) Subject: RE: Good mid range tires?
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big difference in the AT vs. the HT? I need new tires due to dry rot and have Firestone Transforce HT now.. a local tire shop is telling me to put ST's on but my tires now have held up great almost 8 years on them. They are telling me trailer tires are stronger? very confused
Posted 2015-08-13 7:23 AM (#164431 - in reply to #164430) Subject: RE: Good mid range tires?
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Originally written by B. Casey on 2015-08-13 4:42 AM
big difference in the AT vs. the HT? I need new tires due to dry rot and have Firestone Transforce HT now.. a local tire shop is telling me to put ST's on but my tires now have held up great almost 8 years on them. They are telling me trailer tires are stronger? very confused
ST stands for Special Trailer tire. ST tires are designed for use on trailer axle positions only. They are not designed for the load or traction requirements of a drive or steering axle. ST tires have strengthened sidewalls to prevent the tire from rolling under the rim in turns and when cornering. All ST tires have a maximum speed rating of 65 mph. ST tires feature materials and construction designed to meet the higher load requirements and demands trailer towing presents.
Tim Fry, senior development engineer with Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company stated, “The major difference is reflected in the polyester cords used in ST tires. These cords are bigger than they would be for a comparable P or LT tire. Typically, the steel wire also has a larger diameter or greater tensile strength to meet the additional load requirements. Because of the heavier construction for an equal volume of air space, an ST tire is designated to carry more load than a P or LT tire.”
Posted 2015-08-13 7:25 AM (#164432 - in reply to #164430) Subject: RE: Good mid range tires?
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Originally written by B. Casey on 2015-08-13 7:42 AM
big difference in the AT vs. the HT? I need new tires due to dry rot and have Firestone Transforce HT now.. a local tire shop is telling me to put ST's on but my tires now have held up great almost 8 years on them. They are telling me trailer tires are stronger? very confused
All ST tires are rated for a maximum speed of 65mph. When you travel at speeds higher than a tire is rated for it will eventually fail. The heat that builds up in the tire results in fatigue and tire failure.Here is some additional information taken from a Goodyear Tire & Rubber Company Product Service Bulletin, PSB #2011-13.This bulletin provides important information to help your customers obtain the best performance from “Special Trailer” tires. Please review the following important points with your trailer tire customers. Special Trailer (“ST”) Tires: Goodyear Marathon trailer tires are widely used in a variety of towable trailer applications and are designed and branded as “ST” (Special Trailer) tires. Industry standards dictate that tires with the ST designation are speed rated at 65 MPH (104 km/h) under normal inflation and load conditions. Based on these industry standards, if tires with the ST designation are used at speeds between 66 and 75 mph (106 km/h and 121 km/h), it is necessary to increase the cold inflation pressure by 10 psi (69 kPa) above the recommended pressure for the rated maximum load.Increasing the inflation pressure by 10 psi (69 kPa) does not provide any additional load carrying capacity.Do not exceed the maximum pressure for the wheel.If the maximum pressure for the wheel prohibits the increase of air pressure, then the maximum speed must be restricted to 65 mph (104 km/h).The cold inflation pressure must not exceed 10 psi (69 kPa) beyond the inflation specified for the maximum load of the tire.
Posted 2015-08-13 7:29 AM (#164433 - in reply to #164430) Subject: RE: Good mid range tires?
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Originally written by B. Casey on 2015-08-13 7:42 AM
big difference in the AT vs. the HT? I need new tires due to dry rot and have Firestone Transforce HT now.. a local tire shop is telling me to put ST's on but my tires now have held up great almost 8 years on them. They are telling me trailer tires are stronger? very confused
Several years ago it was discovered that numerous brands of Chinese manufactured LT and ST tires had defects that resulted in premature tire failure. RV owners towing travel trailers and 5th wheel trailers were experiencing excessive tire blowouts and other tire failures long before the tire’s life expectancy was reached.It’s too bad, but lots of reputable U.S. tire manufacturers are producing tires in China to lower costs and remain competitive in the marketplace. But, these U.S. brand tires are built with the same quality and specifications a tire manufactured in the U.S. is built to. The defective Chinese tire fiasco, from say 2005 to 2008, left a bad taste with RV owners and many resorted to replacing their ST tires with LT tires. Despite my feeling towards all things Chinese, it seems that U.S. brand tires manufactured in China since 2010 have been fine. This does not however apply to any of cheap priced Chinese brand ST tires being exported to the U.S.
Posted 2015-08-24 4:46 AM (#164526 - in reply to #164090) Subject: RE: Good mid range tires?
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Originally written by kooner on 2015-07-17 12:55 PM
look at them and if they are made in China i would walk away. buy the best tire that you can afford and you will not be sorry in the long run. I for one will only buy an American made tire.
Hope you had better luck then me. I scoured the internet trying to find U.S. made tires when buying tires for my truck. VERY few are U.S. made now a days and those that are are industry specific. As Paul said a lot of "American" tire companies are china manufactured.
Posted 2015-08-25 3:06 PM (#164532 - in reply to #164033) Subject: tires
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first there is no mid range tire anymore, there are good tires, bad tires and really bad tires. I avoid ST tires(trailer tires) at all costs, this means that you cannot run 15 inch wheels because they do not make a decent LT tire in 15 inch wheels.There are top tier tires from brands you have heard of, goodyear(most are made in USA) cooper (again most made in USA), Firestone, Toyo, Hankook, Yokohama. Most of these tires undergo more rigorous quality control, even if they are made in China. These are pretty good tires. Next come China tires like Samson, Carlisle these tires can be ok but their quality control is very iffy. Next you have the super china tires these have names like hercules and yellow seas, and hanling. These tires must work for someone because they sell them but they are all pretty much junk imho.if you dont have 16 inch wheels already, you should take this time to switch over, and buy a reputable 16 lt tire from a tire company you have heard of before . I would not buy and AT tire for a trailer as they generate more heat which is the enemy of trailer tires.