Posted 2005-02-15 12:56 PM (#20670 - in reply to #20046) Subject: RE: Camping with horses
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Packer, I could not get the attachment on prussic loop to open. Did look it up o internet search. Also found it in my ll bean knot game~! If you used baling twine, where would the lead rope go?
Posted 2005-02-15 2:32 PM (#20680 - in reply to #20046) Subject: RE: Camping with horses
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Posts: 173 Location: Arcata, CA
Hey my original drawing has been loaded 17 times, so keep trying. It doesn't work to click on the floppy disk icon, you have to click on the file name (Prussic-Loop-Drawing.jpg) in my original post.
I am now adding a swivel to all my loops that I use to tie animals, you need to thread the swivel on before you knot(close) the loop. After the loop is closed you throw it over the lead rope and pull through itself, three times. Your left with a loop (w/ swivel) hanging...that is where the lead rope gets tied!
Posted 2005-02-16 4:45 PM (#20779 - in reply to #20773) Subject: RE: Camping with horses
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let's recap the advantages of the Prussic Loop over the Knot eliminator.
It's lighter in weight (important if you're tieing up a whole string of critters). It's less expensive, It can be made with readily available materials (haystring) in an emergency. Animals can be quickly cut free and the loop retied in minutes. It can be used as a rescue tool (foot and hand holds on a verticle rope), and the number one reason that it is better than a knot eliminator:
You can easily move the loop (with tied-up animal) down a tight highline!
Convinced? If these things weren't so completely simple, I would sell them! Instead, I'll try to educate people to learn a better way. Maybe someday I'll get to contribute to a magazine article or something. I have prepared a series of documents and instructive drawings for Backcountry Horsemen.
Posted 2005-02-22 10:05 AM (#21135 - in reply to #20046) Subject: RE: Camping with horses
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Does anyone know where/how I can get anchors for the living quarters of my horse trailor. I need to tie down my microwave and coffee pot on the counter while in transit. I love to ride but I have to have my coffee. :-) My wife doesn't want me to put I-bolts in the counter, so I need some kind of glue on type of hook that will hold. Thanks
Posted 2005-02-22 10:35 AM (#21137 - in reply to #21135) Subject: RE: Camping with horses
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I have found many such straps at my corner hardware store that use glue and velcro and rated for varied # pounds. You might try asking for Earthquake Appliance Holdown straps. Of course I live in California where these things are commonplace and I see that you are in Kentucky. I suggest a web search for the these, be aware that any straps rated for any heavy loads will need to be screwed or bolted into a stud or framing member.
Posted 2005-02-24 9:50 PM (#21370 - in reply to #20046) Subject: RE: Camping with horses
Location: KY
Black and Decker makes an undercabinent coffee maker that is very nice, we have one in the horse trailer and liked it so much we got one for the house!
Posted 2005-02-25 11:49 AM (#21393 - in reply to #21370) Subject: RE: Camping with horses
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Hey Rose - that's a GREAT idea. Don't they also make small microwave ovens that mount like that too? I know I've seen toaster ovens (be sure to install the heat guard to the bottom of the cabinet).
Posted 2005-04-15 6:05 AM (#23883 - in reply to #20046) Subject: RE: Camping with horses
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hi Packer, do you work with the back country horsemen? I ride with a group that does the same in nc/sc area called Pisgah trail blazers. Great fun with the camping/riding and giving something back to the trails. Will have to look into that high line tie you are talking about. The knot elim. are a pain to move is you have to do so.
Posted 2005-04-15 10:30 AM (#23892 - in reply to #23883) Subject: RE: Camping with horses
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Hi Traillady,
Yes, I am the 2005 VicePresident of Education in the Backcountry Horsemen of California. The national organization is expanding into more states, even in the east; check out the following link to find a group near you. I noticed that there is a chapter in North Carolina, now too...
Posted 2005-05-10 5:41 PM (#24953 - in reply to #20046) Subject: RE: Camping with horses
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Posts: 173 Location: Arcata, CA
I have a website showing many more details of the highline system. Please feel free to check out the website and let me know how you like the site. It was a free website, so there are more advertisements than I would like, but the price was right! I appreciate any feedback
Posted 2007-02-01 3:23 PM (#54845 - in reply to #20046) Subject: RE: Camping with horses
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Packerpete, Where do you get the swivel? I must say I also had a hard time finding the pulleys your system uses. I found several that were very expensive. I finally found one, that handles less weight and seems to work fine (they were $12 each, I have two). I love the swivel idea, so let me know where to find them!ThanksColleen
Posted 2007-02-01 4:17 PM (#54848 - in reply to #20046) Subject: RE: Camping with horses
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Hi Colleen, I guess it's been awhile since I was on this forum. Here is link for a less expensive pulley that I have been using recently: http://www.rei.com/online/store/ProductDisplay?productId=47845874&a... If that link doesn't work got to rei.com and search for "blue pulley" The swivel is a common hardware store item, less than $5 I believe. I'll see if I can get a photo. I thread it on the rope-cord before I tie the Prussic loop. It works great! Pete
Posted 2007-02-04 11:21 PM (#55069 - in reply to #20046) Subject: RE: Bad trailer accident with Circle J trailer
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If you use the electric pen, make sure it is big enough. I have seen horses turn around and get their tail in the hot tape and take the fence down. 13 I prefer a highline, I feel like my horse is more secure.
Posted 2007-02-05 1:17 PM (#55092 - in reply to #20046) Subject: RE: Camping with horses
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Posts: 50 Location: Delta Junction, Alaska
Packer Pete
Thanks for your info on the Prussic Loop, I have been packing for years all over Alaska and have always been looking for a better way for my lines. Thanks
Camping with horses
Packer, I could not get the attachment on prussic loop to open. Did look it up o internet search. Also found it in my ll bean knot game~!
If you used baling twine, where would the lead rope go? 
Packer, you did'nt say why you were going to the prussic loop instead of knot eliminators. ???
let's recap the advantages of the Prussic Loop over the Knot eliminator.
