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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2007-11-28 11:59 AM (#71980)
Subject: How much does it weigh???


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Went to the Wilson County Farm Supply and got the truck and trailer weighed. Now the dealer/saleman person said the trailer weighed "around 7500#". The folks at Cherokee said 9660#, that was about a month ago. I called Cherokee day before yesterday, spoke to another young lady and she said 8050#. Only thing that's been added weight wise to the trailer is the A/C, approx. 100#.

Now! I want all of you to give your best S. W. A. G., as to what this trailers weighs. Sorta like "Are you smarter than a Trailer Salesman!" Don't be afraid, cause I missed by several hundred pounds myself!! This is the trailer.....   http://www.horsetrailertrader.com/horse-trailer.aspx?stock=3170

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crowleysridgegirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2007-11-28 1:28 PM (#71989 - in reply to #71980)
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PLENTY! That's my guess.We took ours to a local grain scale and weighed it ourselves.There's really no "about" #'s when you are weighing a trailer,grain/fertilizer scales are pretty accurate.Wonder why the guy told you that?
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HWBar
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2007-11-28 1:40 PM (#71991 - in reply to #71980)
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I'd say around 7000lbs. maybe a little less.
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Covert Cowboy
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2007-11-28 2:03 PM (#71993 - in reply to #71980)
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I can tell you that trailer does not weigh anywhere near 9600lbs like the originally stated... maybe with horses in it!

My first thought was 8000lbs, but after thinking about the few Cherokee trailers I've been in, I'll guess 7500.

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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2007-11-28 2:15 PM (#71994 - in reply to #71980)
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Here's a clue! The truck is a 2001, Chevy 3500 dually, ext. cab, 4x4, 8.1/Allison. The truck and trailer together weigh...... 16840#
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HWBar
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2007-11-28 2:46 PM (#71996 - in reply to #71980)
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That truck should weigh about 7500, so simple math says 9340 on the trailer, that seems kind of heavy for that trailer?
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Duckman
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2007-11-28 3:01 PM (#71997 - in reply to #71980)
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Trailer should weigh about 300# per foot of box, 33'X 300# = 9900# (maybe a hair less because it's a Cherokee= 9400#)
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DOUBLE BOGEY
Reg. Oct 2007
Posted 2007-11-28 3:09 PM (#71998 - in reply to #71980)
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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2007-11-28 3:50 PM (#72001 - in reply to #71980)
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Duckman, rework your math, trailer is 35' on the floor, 8' wide and 7'6" tall. 43' total length. I will tell ya'll this, DOUBLE BOGEY ain't even in the same area code!!

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Hank
Reg. Sep 2007
Posted 2007-11-28 3:53 PM (#72002 - in reply to #72001)
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retento, are you telling us a bigger truck is in your near future????
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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2007-11-28 4:23 PM (#72006 - in reply to #71980)
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No Hank, think I'll have to go with Helium in the tires, LOL!!!
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genebob
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2007-11-28 4:26 PM (#72007 - in reply to #71980)
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gotta be between 9,900 and 10.000.Start studying to get your CDL!
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DOUBLE BOGEY
Reg. Oct 2007
Posted 2007-11-28 4:45 PM (#72009 - in reply to #72001)
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7250 based on 35' on the floor

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PaulChristenson
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2007-11-28 4:53 PM (#72011 - in reply to #71980)
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At least 11000#

So a CDL is in effect, if you are commercial...



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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2007-11-28 4:57 PM (#72012 - in reply to #71980)
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In North Carolina, any trailer with a GVW of more than 10,000# requires a CDL. I should have had those (CDL's) a long time ago.........But I don't.
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headhunter
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2007-11-28 7:00 PM (#72017 - in reply to #72012)
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I'll guess 8000 lbs empty.  So when do we get the actual weight?
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jcross
Reg. Sep 2007
Posted 2007-11-28 7:24 PM (#72019 - in reply to #71980)
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I'm going to guess around #10,500. From my own experience.......I have a 92 Volvo (cheap) single axle and a 3H Elite, LQ, just an 8' short wall, loaded with 3 horses, feed, clothes, water and 7 hay bales in the hay rack and I'm at #28,000+ (#14,xxx on the truck and #14,xxx on the trailer) according to the CAT scales at the truck stop.
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retento
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2007-11-29 2:45 AM (#72029 - in reply to #71980)
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The empty trailer weighed.........9640#, truck weighs 7200#, total weight for truck and trailer.....16840#

GCVWR for the truck is 22500#, so that leaves me room for 5660# tack, carts, powerchair, feed, full water tank, our groceries and cloths for a week, the horses and us. I think the horses are going to have to go on a diet!!



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genebob
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2007-11-29 10:50 AM (#72040 - in reply to #71980)
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So, the first person you talked to about the weight was correct. At least close. Our local scale works in 20 lbs. increments, so with a plus or minus factor they were right.Actually the CDL isn't that hard. I've had several of my employees take the test and none of them have failed it yet. Even had my kids take the written CDL and air brake tests without studying and one passed the brake test while the other passed the CDL. Told them they had to figure out how to work together to drive together.
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tobruk
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2007-11-29 7:43 PM (#72083 - in reply to #71980)
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Retento,  A bit off topic and I don't wish to unearth the messy CDL thing but what you're saying effectively would require almost everyone pulling an LQ in NC to have a CLD?  Not too many LQs are under 10000 lbs actual weight.  That's scary.  Is that correct?
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hosspuller
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2007-11-29 9:05 PM (#72088 - in reply to #72083)
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Originally written by tobruk on 2007-11-29 6:43 PM

Retento,  A bit off topic and I don't wish to unearth the messy CDL thing but what you're saying effectively would require almost everyone pulling an LQ in NC to have a CLD?  Not too many LQs are under 10000 lbs actual weight.  That's scary.  Is that correct?

A NC Class "A" license is not a CDL but more than an ordinary automobile license.  I believe.. if you're legal in your state then you're okay in NC pulling a LQ.  Unfortunately, the license class is based on federal rules. 

Based on this >>  http://www.state.tn.us/safety/dlhandbook/DL_HandbookWeb2007.pdf

Look at page 8, , A Tennessee resident driver pulling a horse trailer over 10,000 # is required to have a class "A" license.    Is this true ??

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tobruk
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2007-11-30 10:20 AM (#72128 - in reply to #71980)
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Hoss,  You're correct.  In checking with the Dept of Safety folks in TN this morning IF your trailer alone, irrespecive of the combined weight, is over 10000 rating, which means most 3H and up, you need a modified class A CDL which will allow you to pull your trailer but not a combination.  You do have to have a medical card but you do not have to keep a log book.  Holy cow what a can of worms.  I'll bet 99.99% of the cowboys and cowgirls driving around aren't legal.                      

Of course you can always get a big monster 30000# motor home and a 2H BP and go down the road and not be bothered.  Geesch.

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