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diggerdoo
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2016-07-19 8:16 PM (#167722)
Subject: Hot water heater won't stay on


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Okay....I have removed the vent tube and blown out everything in there with the compressor. No spider webs or anything like that in there. When I turn it on, it starts fine but then starts kind of coughing like it's not getting enough LP. When I look down the tube, the flame will be a nice blue, then a bright yellow flame will go down the tube kind of like a flame thrower. This will go on for 10-15 minutes then it just goes out. What's this going to cost me? LOL.
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beeoerdog
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2016-07-19 8:31 PM (#167724 - in reply to #167722)
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Check the pressure coming from the propane tanks...could be a defective regulator.
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beeoerdog
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2016-07-19 8:34 PM (#167725 - in reply to #167722)
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also clean all the electrical connections
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huntseat
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2016-07-19 9:01 PM (#167726 - in reply to #167722)
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If the fire is yellow orange you aren't getting the right mix of gas to "air" and the "air" portion of the mix is too rich or the gas too little (not enough flowing due to being low or blocked.) Take this with a grain of salt as I'm not a LQ expert but I am well versed at teaching people how to dial in Bunsen burners in my Chemistry labs.
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beeoerdog
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2016-07-19 9:20 PM (#167727 - in reply to #167722)
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You might also have debris in the orifice. Take out burner and clean with small copper or brass wire (very small).. Kinda like a jet on a carburetor
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4quartercirclesperfh
Reg. Jul 2014
Posted 2016-07-20 8:25 AM (#167732 - in reply to #167722)
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Two things that were causing mine to not work was the ignitor was bad and burnt out, and the controller board was shot. The controller board was the first to go then this summer the igniter went out.
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diggerdoo
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2016-07-20 9:10 AM (#167733 - in reply to #167724)
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How do you do this? My fridge is running fine when on LP, would that mean that the regulator is okay?
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diggerdoo
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2016-07-20 9:12 AM (#167734 - in reply to #167724)
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Originally written by beeoerdog on 2016-07-19 8:31 PM

Check the pressure coming from the propane tanks...could be a defective regulator.
How do you do this? My fridge runs fine while on LP, would that mean that the regulator is okay?
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diggerdoo
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2016-07-20 9:14 AM (#167735 - in reply to #167732)
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Originally written by 4quartercirclesperfh on 2016-07-20 8:25 AM

Two things that were causing mine to not work was the ignitor was bad and burnt out, and the controller board was shot. The controller board was the first to go then this summer the igniter went out.
How do you know about either one of these? Just replace them and hope that works? Did yours run for awhile and then sputter out, or just not work at all?
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beeoerdog
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2016-07-20 9:57 AM (#167736 - in reply to #167722)
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyTx8VIE_kQ Fridge doesn't take much propane....heater does. You can buy manometer on Amazon, Ebay etc. RadonAway 50018 Easy Read Manometer, Red
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beeoerdog
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2016-07-20 10:00 AM (#167737 - in reply to #167722)
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The fact that the flame starts off fine and degrades to a yellow leads me to believe that it is a propane supply problem.
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beeoerdog
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2016-07-20 10:37 AM (#167738 - in reply to #167722)
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Whoops....wrong link to manometer.....need one that goes higher: General Tools HG15 Hydrogauge Manometer....Attach to stove, turn on burner, turn on water heater.......pressure should not change, around 11 " w.c.
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beeoerdog
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2016-07-20 10:59 AM (#167739 - in reply to #167722)
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Edit: pressure might change a little but must not go below minimum required as shown on water heater label
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diggerdoo
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2016-07-20 11:23 AM (#167740 - in reply to #167738)
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Originally written by beeoerdog on 2016-07-20 10:37 AM

Whoops....wrong link to manometer.....need one that goes higher: General Tools HG15 Hydrogauge Manometer....Attach to stove, turn on burner, turn on water heater.......pressure should not change, around 11 " w.c.
Don't have a stove, we took it out.
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beeoerdog
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2016-07-20 11:33 AM (#167741 - in reply to #167722)
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Look for a pressure tap at w.h. or regulator....just a plug that can be removed and a fitting installed......or buy a new regulator...less than $50
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beeoerdog
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2016-07-20 11:46 AM (#167742 - in reply to #167722)
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Could also be the gas valve at water heater.....$100....so check regulator first. You can also put a fitting on the pipe where you removed the stove.....probably easier than messing with the regulator or gas valve. If you have a furnace, does it work properly? If not then I would say the regulator is bad. If it is working properly, then more likely the w.h. valve is failing.
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grumpyoldman
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2016-07-20 11:47 AM (#167743 - in reply to #167722)
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Mine was doing almost the same thing. It would light right up and go out in about 7-10 seconds. It tried it's 3 times cycle and quit. I switched it of and repeat of the same thing. On the third time, it would light and stay lit. I googled the problem figured I would start with the ignitor. Purchased it online for about $13 and replaced it. Works like a champ and used a youtube video to get instuctions.
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diggerdoo
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2016-07-20 11:53 AM (#167744 - in reply to #167742)
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Originally written by beeoerdog on 2016-07-20 11:46 AM

Could also be the gas valve at water heater.....$100....so check regulator first. You can also put a fitting on the pipe where you removed the stove.....probably easier than messing with the regulator or gas valve. If you have a furnace, does it work properly? If not then I would say the regulator is bad. If it is working properly, then more likely the w.h. valve is failing.
I'll fire up the furnace when I get home from work. That will be pleasant as the real feel is around 100 today. LOL
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diggerdoo
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2016-07-20 8:57 PM (#167746 - in reply to #167722)
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We may have found the problem. The horizontal vent pipe that goes to the ignitor and has the slots in it for air.....it appears it was letting too much air in. I think when hubby cleaned everything out he put it back together with the slots wide open. loosened it up and twisted it together a little so they were smaller openings and it appears to work fine now. Thanks for all your help, now I know all the things that can go wrong with the hot water heater.
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beeoerdog
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2016-07-20 10:23 PM (#167750 - in reply to #167722)
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Good job!!!!
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diggerdoo
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2016-08-03 8:58 AM (#167905 - in reply to #167722)
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Well.....went to a race over the weekend and it did not stay on.  The flame looked a lot more normal, but still would shut off after 10 minutes or so.  I really don't think it's my regulator, as the furnace worked just fine.  Is there any way that I can narrow it down to the circuit board for sure?  I'm almost ready to just buy one and have hubby replace it as I think it would probably cost that much just to take it to an RV place and get an opinion......
 
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beeoerdog
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2016-08-03 10:44 AM (#167906 - in reply to #167722)
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When the flame goes out, does the light on the on/off switch illuminate.....same as when you first turn the heater on? While cleaning, was the igniter/ flame sensor moved? What is the make of the unit?
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diggerdoo
Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2016-08-03 4:21 PM (#167907 - in reply to #167906)
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beeoerdog - 2016-08-03 10:44 AM When the flame goes out, does the light on the on/off switch illuminate.....same as when you first turn the heater on? While cleaning, was the igniter/ flame sensor moved? What is the make of the unit?

Quite sure it's an Atwood and the ignitor wasn't moved.  The light does stay on when it goes out.
 
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beeoerdog
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2016-08-03 6:30 PM (#167911 - in reply to #167722)
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http://beamalarm.com/Documents/atwood_water_heater_troubleshooting.... See section on Water heater lockout_gas and spark present.The igniter is also a flame sensor and may be going bad. Clean all terminals and check for proper voltage when heater is operating. Dirty terminals reduce the voltage which may be causing the unit to shut down. Igniter is about $23.00 on Amazon. Circuit board$100+. My guess is it is not the board but rather a loose or dirty connection.
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beeoerdog
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2016-08-03 8:15 PM (#167912 - in reply to #167722)
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If cleaning the connections and checking the wiring doesn't work, change the igniter
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