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cinqchevaux
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2005-12-31 12:02 PM (#34627)
Subject: New Hart trailer--defect?


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Two days ago received my new 2006 3h GN Hart stock/combo trailer!  Looks awesome, but....after looking it over carefully, I noticed the rear (single) door does not come all the way to the trailer floor. When it's closed, the door is TWO inches above the bottom. I can stick my entire hand from the outside, under the door into the stock area. From the inside, the gap is more than obvious, and a foal could easily get it's hoof under the door. What gives? Is this normal for the new Harts or any stock combo trailer? On my old1985 Featherlite stock/combo, the door is completely flush with the floor, no gap whatsoever. With the holidays, can't call the dealer or the factory, so wonder if any body can tell me how their stock/combo rear door looks.

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TrishLLC
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2005-12-31 12:17 PM (#34629 - in reply to #34627)
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I don't know if this helps at all but we just bought a new 2005 Hart 4H GN medallion and there is definitely NOT a gap at the rear doors, they are as tight as can be.  I would contact your dealer and/or Hart right away.
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cinqchevaux
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2005-12-31 12:33 PM (#34632 - in reply to #34627)
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Hi TrishLLC; Is your Medallion a horse trailer (with two rear doors) or a stock combo (with one rear door)? There may be a difference of how the various doors fit. Again this is just at the bottom. I understand that there are gaps on the side and top of the single rear on a stock/combo.
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TrishLLC
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2005-12-31 3:42 PM (#34638 - in reply to #34632)
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It's a horse trailer, which is why I didn't know if it would help :-)

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Turfa
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2005-12-31 6:00 PM (#34643 - in reply to #34627)
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I did a little checking on this site for Hart dealers.  I only found 1 dealer that showed the back side of a single door stock trailer.  It looks to be up from the bottom also.  Check it out http://horsetrailerworld.com/home/trailerdetail.asp?ID=65988

 

Turfa

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cinqchevaux
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2006-01-01 1:32 PM (#34674 - in reply to #34627)
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Turfa: Thanks for the picture. Yep, mine looks like that, only moreso. It's a full two inches from the bottom. I never noticed it when I was researching Hart trailers. I hope this isn't normal, as I carry foals in the back, and can see a broken leg in that gap. Gulp.
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Terri
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2006-01-01 11:30 PM (#34701 - in reply to #34627)
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I have a 98 featherlite with a single rear door and it has a gap.  I think it is about 2".  I've never had a problem with it, even with the foals.  I just put them in the front of the trailer. 
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cinqchevaux
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2006-01-02 11:41 AM (#34726 - in reply to #34627)
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Hi Terri; Thanks for your reply. So if the 2" gap is normal, what's the point of it? Besides the possibility of a broken leg or a torn off shoe, how 'bout the shavings flying out the bottom as you're hauling?! After looking at four stock/combos (all single door, of various brands) at two nearby barns, none have a gap except mine. 

Well, guess I'll get answers tomorrow when I call the factory. Perhaps I'm making too big a deal of this, but it physically looks like poor manufacturing, with the door not flush with the floor. I KNOW Hart has a good reputation, so either I'm too picky, or they goofed up.

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Terri
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2006-01-02 12:12 PM (#34727 - in reply to #34726)
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I have never had a problem with the shavings falling out.  My trailer has solid sides almost all the way up so there is not much wind along the bottom of the trailer.  Maybe they left the gap so urine can run out easier?

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cinqchevaux
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2006-01-02 12:30 PM (#34728 - in reply to #34627)
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>>Maybe they left the gap so urine can run out easier?<<

Maybe. Rather have the urine than a pulled leg or shoe. Anyway thanks for your replies!

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WM325
Reg. Jan 2006
Posted 2006-01-02 5:54 PM (#34748 - in reply to #34627)
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Hi--Did you find out from Hart about the gap? We too--purchased a stock/combo recently and it has about a 2" gap. We stopped on the way home and picked up a couple of horses, during a snow storm. The back 2 horse were covered with snow---from it blowing in under the door. Interested to see what they tell you. Thanks
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iCE CRM
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2006-01-02 6:42 PM (#34750 - in reply to #34627)
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I think that since it is a stock trailer and not a horse trailer this may be the problem. If you had a single door and it was loaded to the max which is probably overloaded from the people hauling cows. If the door that big needed to be opened and the trailer was sitting on a sloop and it was flush with the bottom then it might not open. I think that door is extra thick and the only way a foal could get its leg in there was if it were laying down and thrashing around. I think you are overly concerned about nothing. But some strange things can happen.
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bobtaildog
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2006-01-02 6:56 PM (#34751 - in reply to #34627)
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Is it 2" with mats in the trailer or from the aluminum floor? I'm on my second stock combo (Featherlite and Elite), both have about 1" gaps from the aluminum floor which works out about right once the mats are in place.

KP

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barry
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2006-01-03 9:41 AM (#34794 - in reply to #34627)
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My 05 CM Dakota has a gap (probably 1.5 inches) under the rear single door. I like that feature as it keeps manure and urine from resting on the metal continually. I have not noticed anything coming in or out the gap. But then there are open slats on the top of the door.
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cinqchevaux
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2006-01-03 10:31 AM (#34801 - in reply to #34627)
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Just got off the phone with the Hart manufacturer. It's not a defect. That's the way they do the stock single rear door. The person I spoke with was unable to give a reason for such a large gap: 2 1/4" from the rubber mat.

So I will either weld an add'l 1" or so on the bottom of the door, or figure some way to fill the area in with rubber mats. I do not like that gap.

Let me say, though, that I've had nothing but positive communication with the Hart factory. They're friendly, very prompt with returning phone and email messages; and they make a darn nice trailer.

 

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Terri
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2006-01-03 1:31 PM (#34815 - in reply to #34750)
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iCE CRM, my trailer is a horse trailer (4 horse slant)and it has the gap.  

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Champhorse
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2006-01-03 1:34 PM (#34816 - in reply to #34627)
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A friend of mine has a Titan Stock/Combo trailer that also has about a 2" gap between the rubber mats and the bottom of the door. We had never noticed it before and she was showing me the inside after they had just taken it to a place to completly clean it out. When she opened the back door, there were leaves all over the inside. It took us a little bit before we figured out how the leaves got in there, but there is a definite gap.
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TrishLLC
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2006-01-06 12:36 AM (#34995 - in reply to #34627)
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Just a thought, but would ordering a rear rubber bumper from Hart and installing it on the bottom of the door do the trick?  It should be the right width and has recessed holes for screwing it in.
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hounddog
Reg. Dec 2005
Posted 2006-01-06 2:23 AM (#34997 - in reply to #34627)
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My CM has about a 2 inch gap as well.
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cinqchevaux
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2006-01-06 5:48 PM (#35034 - in reply to #34627)
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Hi TrishLLC; Good suggestion, as I am leaning towards putting in rubber matting to close the gap instead of welding on an extra 1" of door. The trailer already has a rubber bumper as you described: wonder how it would look with two.  Like....lips??!! lol.   Might be worth a try, though. 

Pulled two horses in it for the first time, and when they walk out, they want to step on the very rear of the trailer, right where the gap is and only has metal on the floor. IOW, since the rubber floor is not flush with where the door hits, there is the metal floor of the trailer. Ok, am I like overanalyzing this! I may be the only trailer owner who's bothered by the gap and four inches of metal floor!

Off topic: It was really interesting to pull a gooseneck instead of a bumper. Can't say I like backing the "tank" up (ok, it's only a 19' box), as I am a pro at backing a BP, and the goose is a whole different exercise. But the ride was much smoother for horses and humans, and the truck seemed to like hauling it better. Very cool.

 

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Terri
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2006-01-07 12:35 PM (#35071 - in reply to #35034)
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Your mats don't extend all the way out?  mine go to the rubber bumper.
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iCE CRM
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2006-01-07 2:16 PM (#35077 - in reply to #34815)
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Terri, Thats a new on me . I have never seen an Alum trailer that is a true horse trailer with drop windows and slides on rump that doesn't have double doors that seal all way around. I would be interested in what brand you have?
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Terri
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2006-01-07 2:32 PM (#35079 - in reply to #35077)
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Its a 98 featherlite.  And its steel, not aluminum.



Edited by Terri 2006-01-07 2:36 PM
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cinqchevaux
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2006-01-09 7:15 PM (#35208 - in reply to #34627)
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>>Your mats don't extend all the way out?  mine go to the rubber bumper.<<

No. That's part of the problem too. The mats stop four inches from the end of the trailer. There is a metal strip holding the mats in place, then the four inches of metal. My horse stepped on that on his way out and nearly slipped off the end of the trailer.

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Terri
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2006-01-09 7:20 PM (#35209 - in reply to #35208)
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I'd call Hart and ask them why. 
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